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-elected. fudging the facts on jobless numbers for political gain. we talk to jack welch, one of america's all-time great ceos. his tweet launched the controversy. the question tonight, does he stand by it? you'll hear from him in a moment. he was tweeting about september employment data which came out this morning showing the economy adding 114,000 jobs last month, and the jobless rate falling by .3 to 7.8%. that would be the lowest since president obama took office. now, before we get into what jack welch tweeted, here's how president obama reacted to the economic news. >> today's news should give us some encouragement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other side to try to talk down the economy just to try to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country's come too far to turn back now. >> president obama on the campaign trail today. now here's what mitt romney said. >> the unemployment rate as you know this year has come down very, very slowly but it's come down nonetheless. the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have ju
into what jack welch tweeted, here's how president obama reacted to the economic news. >> today's news should give us some encouragement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other side to try to talk down the economy just to try to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country's come too far to turn back now. >> president obama on the campaign trail today. now here's what mitt romney said. >> the unemployment rate as you know this year has come down very, very slowly but it's come down nonetheless. the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. >> he went on to say the country can do better, which is about what you would expect him to say, same as you would expect president obama to say what he said. that's the way the two sides do it, year in, year out, campaign after campaign. what no one does, at least not until now, is look at the numbers and suggest the fix is in. this morning, though, jack welch did tweeting, quote unbelievable job numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't de
. the first place this blew up today was on twitter. the former ceo of general electric jack welch, general electric i should say is a minority owner of this company, mr. welch tweeted, quote, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate. so change numbers. jack welch accusing the white house, right, of manipulating this month's jobs data so it would look better for the president. always up for a good conspiracy theory republican congressman alan west of florida concurred and wrote, quote, in regards to today's jobs report i agree with former ge ceo jack welch. chicago-style politics is at work here. from there it was sort of off to the races. republican congressman paul brown of georgia, quote, september jobs report raises questions. quote, i don't think bls cooked numbers. i think a bunch of dems lied about getting jobs. huh. that would have the same effect. that was from a senior writer at something called "the washington examiner," a conservative thing online. eric bolling who is at fox news, he wrote, wow. obama labor department smarter than all 25 of am
explanation. >> okay. look, it's not just jack welch, whom we heard from, perpetuating this conspiracy theory. look at these interviews. congressman alan west, senator john mccain both on cnbc. here we go. >> i know. >> you are alleging specifically that the president is engaging in a cover-up of the data. you are saying that the administration is actively manipulating that data. correct? >> well, absolutely. >> frankly, i am not enough of an economist to question exactly what those numbers are. our discussion about the warren act that just took place where there are blatant violations of the law, i wouldn't put anything past this administration. >> you know, these are sitting members of congress. >> yeah. >> alan west won, of course. we know his party. he's very conservative nap said, john mccain. are you surprised by his comments? >> i'm very surprised by his comment. all of those comments, they're not just deeply irresponsible, but without a shred of evidence they are casting doubt about a very important number in our economy. now, if you understand the way the bureau of labor statistics c
chairman jack welch kicked off the conspiracy tweeting, quote, unbelievable job numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change numbers. and laura igraham says, job numbers from labor secretary hilda solis are total pro obama. congressman allen west challenged the numbers, quote, chicago style politics is at work here. and, of course, rush limbaugh took time to get unreal. >> it's no different than obama declaring the temperature is going to be 75 degrees every day no matter what your thermometer says. >> that's the problem with the right and that's the problem with governor romney. they can't stand the truth. things are getting better. joining me now is joan walsh, editor at large for salon.com and an msnbc political analyst. and e.j. dionne, columnist for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor. joan, let me start with you. what's behind these conspiracy theories? >> they just don't want to accept the realities that the president has made things better, reverend al. i think you forgot one. rush, when hurricane ivan was -- rush accused president obama of messing
two years in several decades during this recovery. >> you know, jack welch, the former ceo of ge, he tweeted this because he didn't believe these numbers. he tweeted "unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change numbers." now, there are others who are suggesting there was political influence over the bureau of labor statistics that are driving these numbers, trying to make the president look good only a few weeks before the election. you're familiar with the economists, the statisticians who work there. what do you say to these folks who see some conspirator yal involvement out there. >> that's totally, totally insane. i'm friend with jack welch and i tweeted him back. i said, jack, i love you, but on this one you've just flat out lost your mind. there's an ironclad firewall with criminal penalties for anybody at the bls to have any kind of political interference or to release any of the numbers early. it's totally impossible to do that. you've seen all the reputable republicans that have worked with the bureau of labor statistics in the past
. you are jack welch. jack, you've got to take this opportunity while everybody is listening to you to actually say, yes, anderson, i'm taking that tweet back. i'm going to send a new tweet to say i was exaggerating. there are problems bls should look into but to throw out an accusation that's like asking the government how often do you beat your wife. >> i should have had a question mark at the back of it, ali, let's face it, but the facts, are ali, no matter how you want to look at this, we had 25 economists polled before this number came out. the average number they expected was about 115,000. not one of them -- >> yes. >> had a number below 1.1. >> labor secretary hilda so li s shot back at the critics telling cnn it was insulting for people to suggest her department was manipulating numbers for the president's benefit. >>> the obama and romney campaigns are ratcheting up the rhetoric in the wake of the jobs report. our political editor paul steinhauser hats candidate's comments. one set of numbers, two sets of eyes. >> yeah, very, very different responses to the friday jobs rep
depression. jack welch tweeted this, unbelievable jobs numbers, these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change the numbers. and the partisan pushing continues this morning. >> on friday we learned that the unemployment rate is now at its lowest level since i took office. >> friday's jobs report shows america still desperately needs jobs. yet the president's central and sole proposal would mean fewer jobs. >> republicans in congress need to stop trying to relaxing fight the battles of the past few years and finally start doing something to actually help the middle class get ahead. >> we can't afford four more years like the last fr. prices, 23 million americans struggling for work. >> congress needs to step up and pass my plan to create a veterans job corps to help our returning heroes find work as cops, firefighters and park rangers in communities across the country. a few weeks ago republicans in the senate voted that plan down. ask them why someone who fights for this country abroad should fight for a job when they come home. >> understand that the president must campaign,
. i just wanted to show what jack welch's response was, it was a tweeted response that got picked up in the news where he basically said that the u.s. bureau of labor statistics apparently in conjunction with the chicago machine, right, the chicago guys will do anything. you can't debate, so you change the numbers. that's the idea, that that's what happened here, that these numbers aren't real. >> i was astonished when i first heard that, considering he used to be the head of this whole network and everyone -- >> shhh. >> that's amazing. the other thing is, that these jobs numbers, they destroy their big talking point of the republicans over the last eight, nine months that unemployment has not been below 8%. it's also falling into another one of their talking olympians, that hispanic unemployment is above 10%. now it's below, 9.8%. >> this was not good 7.8 but all of the subcategories were falling. >> in contrast to what mitt romney was saying on the clip, where people have left the job market, that is so not true. there are 418,000 people who have entered the job market. you can't
numbers. former chairman and ceo of ge jack welch tweeted -- welch was backed in his theorizing by master of the outlandish alan west who wrote -- this is orwellian to say the least and representative of saul au lin ski tactics from the book rules for radicals" a must read for all who want to know how the left strategize. what's that you say, a strengthening work force and recovering economy or wellien indeed. >> they want to slow the economy before the election and if you don't believe that -- >> that was a year and a half ago. >> i have a bridge i want to sell you in oakland. that's what the republicans and obstructionists in congress is about. >> joining us is cnbc's amman jabbers. you're the man with the answers. mitt romney is walking on stage and we'll have to go to him shortly but is it a good day for the american economy or not, tell us? >> it's definitely a good day. the auto sales number was good, consumer confidence up, but we had truthers, birthers and now we've got jobbers, these people who don't believe the government data here and to those people i would quote carl sagan an
. >> christy, some of the attacks from conservatives, such as jack welch, saying they don't believe the numbers. they believe the books are cooked essentially. explain the process of how we reach these numbers today? >> there's spin, and then there are conspiracy theories, and the spin, which is valid, if spin can be valid, is that, you know, look, you still have only 114,000 jobs created on balance. anha's -- you know, you th ty pu together. right? one of them is a survey of people at home where you call anthpele s yes or no and explain how. the other is a survey of employers where they ask are you hiring? that's where the 114,000 number comes om114,000 number might not catch everyone who is working part-time from home or just working part-time or doing some kinds of contract work, so that's why sometimes thercran bwe no, they're noin t bt of bls cooking the books for some political reason. i would bring this one point, suzanne, if they were, wouldn't they have done that after the president gave his speech in charlotte? instead he gave a speech in charlotte, and it was a bad report the next d
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